Consultation on the Proposal to Amend the Air Navigation Order 2005 - Power of Entry of Firefighters

Aerodrome Standards Department

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Consultation on the Proposal to Amend the Air Navigation Order 2005 – Power of Entry of Firefighters Comment Response Document No. Part / Section / Para / Comment CAA Ref CAA Comment Sub-para Question 1: Do you agree that the RFFS should have a power of access to an aircraft on the aerodrome if they believe a fire to have broken out or an aircraft accident or incident has occurred, for the purpose of rescuing people or protecting them from harm or to limit damage to property? 1 Question 1 Yes E2845 2 Question No E2844 3 Question E2852 4 1 Yes E2857 5 E2859 6 Question E2875 7 Question 1 No E2901 See comment below. 8 Question 1 Yes E3018 9 E3247 Question 2: Do you agree that this power should include entering an aircraft, by force if necessary, without the consent of the owner? 10 Question 2 Yes E2845 11 Question 2 No E2844 See comment below. 12 E2852 13 Question 2 Yes E2857 14 Question E2859 15 E2875 16 Question 2 No E2901 See comment below. 17 Question 2 Yes E3018 18 Question E3247 Consultation on Proposal to Amend the ANO 2005 - Power of Entry of Firefighters - Comment Response Document 14 April 2009 Page 1 of 6 No. Part / Section / Para / Comment CAA Ref CAA Comment Sub-para Question 3: Do you agree that there should be an offence of obstruction against these actions? 19 Question 3 Yes E2845 20 Question 3 No E2844 See comment below 21 Question E2852 22 3 Yes E2857 23 ...

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• Publié par: Iprie
• Nombre de lectures: 27
• Langue: English

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Consultation on the Proposal to Amend the Air Navigation Order 2005 – Power of Entry of Firefighters Comment Response Document

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In my opinion, if a fire fighter hasE2845 Commentnoted. reasonable grounds to suspect that a fire is, or suspected to be, within the confines of an aircraft and or helicopter, or any part thereof, and they have taken all reasonable steps to make contact with flight deck crew and or cabin crew, then as much force as is necessary should be used to gain access for the extinguishment of fire, and or evacuation of passengers and personnel. The only question I have is, who would beAs with any statutory power, it must be liable for damage caused in the event that it exercised properly.To mitigate the risk of was proven that communications hadimproper exercise, a full and appropriate broken down from RFFS/ATC or thedynamic risk assessment should be incorrect evaluation of an event? conducted.

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I think that this could potentially be a veryE2844 Firefightershave a knowledge of aircraft and dangerous move. Firefighters undoubtedlysystems appropriate to their role. have expertise in their field, but little indepthAny action should be preceded by a dynamic knowledge of an aircraft and its systems. Ifrisk assessment which should follow liaison an aircraft is empty and a fire is suspectedwith all relevant parties. Most incidents are then access should be allowed, however ifresolved by liaison and agreement of actions the Commander is on board then the to be taken. However there remains a need decision should rest with him. I think thatfor the power to be available in circumstances the proposals would lead to a shift ofwhere life is at risk. control which could lead to confusion, hostility, and mistakes being made. I fully agree with this amendment. I alsoE2852 Oncethe ANO has been amended all the believe that this area should be expandedissues will be covered in a Reference Point through the publication of an Informationarticle and included in all levels of RFFS Paper covering the statutory rights of thetraining. Airport Fire Service to enter buildings within This power has been focused on aviation the Airport boundary for the samerisks as the buildings and other risks, both on purposes. The Fire Services Act 2004 doesand off the aerodrome, should be subject to not cover this provision clearly for Nonmutual aid arrangements with the local fire Local Authority Services and thereforeand rescue authority. Where the RFFS needs to be highlighted; supported by respond in support of the local authority fire options for the Airport Authority to consider.and rescue service they would be included in the power contained in the Fire Services Act 2004.

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We support the proposals, except to queryE2875 Thecomment is correct in that the Fire and why the proposed Powers are restricted toRescue Services Act 2004 would cover these the grounds of a licensed aerodrome. Inother responses assuming that mutual aid some circumstances, Aerodrome RFFS doarrangements are in place. These attend offaerodrome aircraft accidents andarrangements would normally be set out in other incidents (usually just outside thethe aerodrome emergency orders. boundary), and we believe these Powers The power of access to buildings is similarly should be available in those circumstances.covered. The important thing is for an Or are RFFS covered under the Fire &arrangement to be in place between the Rescue Services Act 2004 when off aerodrome and the local fire and rescue aerodrome, perhaps by being deemed to beauthority. operating as part of the local authority service? Returning to the onaerodrome case, the proposal mentions access to aircraft only; what about power of access to premises, for example, a tenant's office or hangar? There are many issues with the standardE2901 Noted the competence of staff working and scope of training and communication ofairside is currently being considered by the operations, ground services and fire serviceCAA. that need to be addressed.

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