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Title: The Greville Memoirs
A Journal of the Reigns of King George IV and King William IV, Vol. III
Author: Charles C. F. Greville
Editor: Henry Reeve
Release Date: December 3, 2009 [EBook #30591]
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Contents of the Third Volume
CHAPTER XXI.Dinner at Greenwich — Monk Lewis — The King’s Letter —
Lord Althorp’s Finance — Salutes to the Royal Family — Death
of Lord Dover — His Character — Lyndhurst and Brougham on
the Local Courts Bill — Charles Napier captures the Miguelite
Fleet — The Irish Church Bill — The Duke of Wellington and
the Bonapartes — Blount’s Preaching — Sir Robert Peel on
Political Unions — Mr. George Villiers appointed to Madrid —
Duke of Richmond — Suspension Clause in Irish Church Bill
— Apprenticeship Clause in West India Bill — State of House
of Commons — Lucien and Joseph Bonaparte — Lord Plunket
— Denis Lemarchant — Brougham and Sugden — Princess
Lieven — Anecdotes of the Emperor Nicholas — Affairs of
Portugal — Don Miguel at Strathfieldsaye — Prorogation of
Parliament — Results of the Reform Bill.
The Speaker a Knight of the Bath — Lord Wellesley Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland — M. Thiers in England — Prince
Esterhazy’s Opinion of the State of England — Queen of
Portugal at Windsor — The Duke of Leuchtenberg — Macaulay
and Sydney Smith — Brougham’s Anecdotes of Queen
Caroline — Judicial Committee of the Privy Council — Sir
Stratford Canning and M. Dedel — Sydney Smith and the
‘Siege of Saragossa’ — Edward Irving — The Unknown
Tongues — Tribute to Lord Eldon — W.J. Fox — Lord
Tavistock on the Prospects of his Party — Moore at the State
Paper Office — Russia and England — Belvoir Castle — The
Duke of Wellington at Belvoir — Visit to Mrs. Arkwright — Sir
Thomas Lawrence and the Misses Siddons — A Murder at
Runton — Sandon — Lord and Lady Harrowby — Burghley —
Railroads talked of — Gloomy Tory Prognostications — State
of Spain — Parliament opens — Quarrel of Sheil and Lord
Althorp — Unpopularity of Lord Palmerston — Mrs. Somerville
— O’Connell’s Attack on Baron Smith — Lord Althorp’s Budget
— The Pension List — Lord Althorp as Leader of the House —
Sir R. Peel’s Position in the House — Meeting of Supporters of
Government — Mr. Villiers on the State of Spain —
Predicament of Horne, the Attorney-General
Spain — Russia and Turkey — Sir R. Peel’s Pictures — Peel
and Stanley — Lord Brougham’s Judicial Changes — Lord
Brougham’s Defence — Admission of Dissenters to the
Universities — Lord Denman’s Peerage — Growing
Ascendancy of Peel — An Apology for Lord Brougham —
Personal Reflections — Crime in Dorsetshire — Spain and
Portugal — Procession of the Trades’ Unions — Lady
Hertford’s Funeral — Petition of the London University for a
Charter — Repeal of the Union — Excitement of the King —
Brougham and Eldon at the Privy Council — Duke of
Wellington’s Aversion to the Whigs — Lord Brougham and
Lord Wynford — Fête at Petworth — Lord Brougham’s Conduct
on the Pluralities Bill — Crisis in the Cabinet — Prince Lieven
recalled — Stanley, Graham, and the Duke of Richmond resign
on the Irish Church Bill — History of the Crisis — Ward’sMotion defeated by moving the previous Question — Affairs of
Portugal — Effects of the late Change — Oxford
Commemoration — Peel’s Declaration — Festival in
Westminster Abbey — Don Carlos on his way to Spain —
Stanley’s ‘Thimble-rig’ Speech — Resignation of Lord Grey —
Mr. Greville’s account of the Causes of his Retirement — The
Government reconstituted by Lord Melbourne — Lord
Duncannon Secretary of State
Taylor’s ‘Philip Van Artevelde’ — Goodwood — Earl Bathurst’s
Death — Death of Mrs. Arbuthnot — Overtures to O’Connell —
Irish Tithe Bill — Theodore Hook’s Improvisation — Lord
Westmeath’s Case in the Privy Council — First Council of Lord
Melbourne’s Government and Prorogation — Brougham’s
Vagaries — Lord Durham’s Exclusion — The Edinburgh
Dinner — Windsor and Meiningen — Spencer Perceval —
Lord Grey’s Retirement — The Westmeath Case again — The
Queen’s Return — Melbourne and Tom Young — Holland
House — Reflections — Conversation on the Poets —
Miscellaneous Chat — Lord Melbourne’s Literary Attainments
— Lord Holland’s Anecdotes of Great Orators — Execution of
Charles I. — Lord Melbourne’s Opinion of Henry VIII. — The
‘Times’ attacks Lord Brougham — His Tour in Scotland — His
Unpopularity — Cowper’s Secret — Canning on Reform —
Lord Melbourne on Palmerston and Brougham — Canning and
Brougham in 1827 — Senior — Lord Melbourne and the
Benthamites — His Theology — Spanish Eloquence — The
Harley Papers — The Turf — Death of Lord Spencer — The
Westmeath Case heard — Law Appointments — Bickersteth —
Louis Philippe’s Position.
Fall of Lord Melbourne’s Government — History and Causes of
this Event — An Intrigue — Effect of the Coup at Holland
House — The Change of Government — The two Camps —
The King’s Address to the New Ministers — The Duke’s
Account of the Transaction — And Lord Lyndhurst’s — Difficult
Position of the Tories — Their Policy — The Duke in all the
Offices — Negotiation with Mr. Barnes — Power of the ‘Times’
— Another Address of the King — Brougham offers to be Lord
Chief Baron — Mr. Barnes dines with Lord Lyndhurst — Whig
View of the Recent Change — Liberal Views of the Tory
Ministers — The King resolved to support them — Another
Account of the Interview between the King and Lord Melbourne
— Lord Stanley’s Position — Sydney Smith’s Preaching at St.
Paul’s — Lord Duncannon and Lord Melbourne — Relations of
the four Seceders to Peel — Young Disraeli — Lord
Melbourne’s Speeches at Derby — Lord John Russell’s
Speech at Totness — The Duke of Wellington’s
Inconsistencies and Conduct
Sir R. Peel arrives — The First Council — The King’s Address— Lord Stanley and Sir J. Graham decline to join the
Government — Lord Wharncliffe and Sir E. Knatchbull join —
The Ministers sworn in — Peel’s Address to his Constituents —
Dinner at the Mansion House — Offer to Lord Roden —
Prospects of the Election — Stanley’s Want of Influence —
Pozzo di Borgo’s Views — Russia and England — Nomination
of Lord Londonderry to St. Petersburg — Parliament dissolved
— State of the Constituencies — A Governor-General for India
— Sebastiani and St. Aulaire — Anecdote of Princess
Metternich — The City Elections — Lord Lyndhurst’s View of
the Government — Violence of the Opposition — Close
Contest at Rochester — Sydney Herbert — Sir John
Hobhouse’s Views — Anecdotes — County Elections — The
Queen supposed to be with Child — Church Reform — Dinner
of Ministers — Story of La Roncière — The King’s Crotchets
The Speakership — Temporary Houses of Parliament —
Church Reform — Dissenters’ Marriage Bill — Peel’s False
Position — Burke — Palmerston’s Talents as a Man of
Business and Unpopularity — Sympathy of Continental Courts
with the Tories — Abercromby elected Speaker — Defeat of
the Government — Tactics of the Opposition — The Speaker
does not dine with Peel — Meeting of Stanley’s Friends —
Debate on the Address — Lord John Russell leads the
Opposition — The Stanley Party — Second Defeat of the
Government — Peel’s Ability — The Lichfield House Meeting
— Debate on Lord Londonderry’s Appointment — His Speech
in the Lords and Resignation — Sir E. Sudgen resigns the
Great Seal of Ireland — Lady Canterbury — Brougham in the
House of Lords — Peel’s Readiness and Courage — Lord
Canterbury and Stratford Canning proposed for Canada —
Approaching Fall of the Peel Government — Meetings of the
Opposition — Further Defeat — Sir Robert Peel’s own View of
the State of Affairs — He resigns
Lord Grey and Sir James Graham express Conservative Views
— Opinions of Lord Stanley — Lord Grey sees the King, but is
not asked to resume Office — Lord Melbourne’s Second
Administration — His Moderation — A Difficulty — Spring Rice
— A Joyless Victory — Exclusion of Brougham — The New
Cabinet — Lord John Russell defeated in Devonshire — Lord
Alvanley and O’Connell — Duel with Morgan O’Connell —
Lord Wellesley resigns the Lord Stewardship — The Eliot
Convention — Swift v. Kelly — The Kembles — London
University Charter discussed at the Privy Council —
Corporation Reform — Formation of the Conservative Party —
The King’s Habits — Secretaryship of Jamaica — Lord
Melbourne’s Tithe Bill — The Pope rejects the
Recommendation of the British Government — Relations with
Rome — Carlists and Christinos in Spain — Walcheren — The
King’s Address to Sir Charles Grey — Stanley and Graham
cross the House — Failure of Stanley’s Tactics — Alava and
the Duke of Cumberland — A Sinecure Placeman — LordGlenelg and the King — Concert at Stafford House — The
King’s Aversion to his Ministers and to the Speaker — Decision
on the Secretaryship of Jamaica — Archbishop Whateley —
Irish Church Bill — Payment of Catholic Clergy — Peel and
Lord John Russell — Factious Conduct of Tory Peers — The
King’s Violence — Debate on the Corporation Bill
Resistance of the Lords — Duke of Richmond — Happiness —
Struggle between Lords and Commons — Peel keeps aloof —
Inconsistency of the Whigs on the Irish Church Bill — Violent
Language in the Lords — Lord John Russell and Peel pass the
Corporation Bill — Dissolution of the Tory Party foreseen —
Meeting of Peers to consider the Amendments — King’s
Speech in Council on the Militia — Lord Howick’s Bitterness
against the Lords — Lord Lyndhurst’s Opinion of the
Corporation Bill — The King’s Language on the Regency —
Talleyrand’s View of the English Alliance — Comparison of
Burke and Mackintosh — The St. Leger — Visit of Princess
Victoria to Burghley — O’Connell’s Progress through Scotland
— Mackintosh’s Life
Emperor Nicholas’s Speech at Warsaw — His Respect for
Opinion in England — Burdett proposes the Expulsion of
O’Connell from Brooks’s — Club Law — George Villiers at
Madrid — Lord Segrave Lord-Lieutenant of Gloucestershire —
Dispute between France and America — Allen’s Account of
Mackintosh and Melbourne — Prolongation of a Patent —
Should Dr. Arnold be made a Bishop? — Frederic Elliot —
O’Connell’s mischievous Influence — Bretby — Chesterfield
MSS. — The Portfolio — Lord Cottenham and Lord Langdale
— Opening of Parliament — The Judicial Committee — Poulett
Thomson at the Board of Trade — Mr. Perceval’s Interviews
with the Ministers — Prospects of the Tories — Lord Stanley’s
Relations to them — Holland House Anecdotes —
Mischievous Effects of the Division on his Address — The
Youth of Macaulay — Brougham and Macaulay — Lord William
Bentinck — Review of Sir R. Peel’s Conduct — Dr. Hampden’s
Appointment — The Orange Lodges
Moore and O’Connell — Defeat of the Opposition — The
Carlow Election — Lord Alvanley’s Speech to the Tory Peers
— Norton v. Lord Melbourne — Catastrophe after Epsom —
Mendizabal and Queen Christina — Lord John Russell’s
Moderation in the Ecclesiastical Commission — Theatricals at
Bridgewater House — Irish Church — Ministerial Difficulties —
Deplorable State of Spain — What was thought of Lord
Palmerston in 1836 — Weakness of Government — Lord
Lyndhurst’s Summary of the Session — Balance of Parties —
Lady Augusta Kennedy’s Marriage — King’s Speech to
Princess Victoria — Revolution of La Granja — Rudeness of
the King to Ministers — Irritation of the King at the Duchess ofKent — Scene at Windsor on the King’s Birthday — Prince
Esterhazy’s View of the Affairs of Europe — Emperor Nicholas
at Vienna — A Crisis in Trade — State of the Court at Vienna
— Duc de Reichstadt
Crisis in the City — The Chancellor of the Exchequer — A
Journey to Paris — Lord Lyndhurst in Paris — Princess Lieven
— Parties in France — Berryer — The Strasburg Conspirators
— Rotten State of France — Presentation at the Tuileries —
Ball at the Tuileries — Bal Musard — Lord Granville — The
Due de Broglie — Position of the Duc d’Orleans — Return to
England — Conservative Reaction — Sheil’s Tirade against
Lord Lyndhurst — Lyndhurst as a Tory Leader — Angry Debate
on Church Rates — The Government on the Brink of
Resignation — Sir R. Peel’s Prospects — The King and Lord
Aylmer — Death of Mrs. Fitzherbert — Ministerial Compromise
— Westminster Election — Majority of the Princess Victoria —
The King’s Illness — The King’s Letter to the Princess —
Preparations for the Council — Sir E. Peel on the Prospects of
the New Reign — Prayers ordered for the King’s Recovery —
Affairs of Lord Ponsonby — Death of King William IV. — First
Council of Queen Victoria — The Queen proclaimed —
Character of William IV
[1]Dinner at Greenwich — Monk Lewis — The King’s Letter —
Lord Althorp’s Finance — Salutes to the Royal Family — Death
of Lord Dover — His Character — Lyndhurst and Brougham on
the Local Courts Bill — Charles Napier captures the Miguelite
Fleet — The Irish Church Bill — The Duke of Wellington and
the Bonapartes — Blount’s preaching — Sir Robert Peel on
Political Unions — Mr. George Villiers appointed to Madrid —
Duke of Richmond — Suspension Clause in Irish Church Bill
— Apprenticeship Clause in West India Bill — State of House
of Commons — Lucien and Joseph Bonaparte — Lord Plunket
— Denis Lemarchant — Brougham and Sugden — Princess
Lieven — Anecdotes of the Emperor Nicholas — Affairs of
Portugal — Don Miguel at Strathfieldsaye — Prorogation ofParliament — Results of the Reform Bill.
June 29th, 1833
I am going, if not too lazy, to note down the everyday nothings of my
life, and see what it looks like.
We dined yesterday at Greenwich, the dinner given by Sefton, who
took the whole party in his omnibus, and his great open carriage;
Talleyrand, Madame de Dino, Standish, Neumann, and the Molyneux
family; dined in a room called ‘the Apollo’ at the Crown and Sceptre. I
thought we should never get Talleyrand up two narrow perpendicular
staircases, but he sidles and wriggles himself somehow into every place
he pleases. A capital dinner, tolerably pleasant, and a divine evening.
Went afterwards to the ‘Travellers,’ and played at whist, and read the new
[2]edition of ‘Horace Walpole’s Letters to Sir Horace Mann.’ There is
something I don’t like in his style; his letters don’t amuse me so much as
they ought to do.
A letter this morning from Sir Henry Lushington about Monk Lewis. He
is rather averse to a biographical sketch, because he thinks a true account
of his life and character would not do him credit, and adds a sketch of the
latter, which is not flattering. Lord Melbourne told me the other day a queer
trait of Lewis. He had a long-standing quarrel with Lushington. Having
occasion to go to Naples, he wrote beforehand to him, to say that their
quarrel had better be suspended, and he went and lived with him and his
sister (Lady L.) in perfect cordiality during his stay. When he departed he
wrote to Lushington to say that now they should resume their quarrel, and
put matters in the ‘status quo ante pacem,’ and accordingly he did resume
it, with rather more acharnement than before.
Charles Wood came into my room yesterday, and talked of the King’s
letter, said he understood the Archbishop had imparted it to the seven
Bishops who had voted, that nothing would come of it, for it was a private
letter which nobody had a right to take up. I see the Government are not
displeased at such an evidence of the King’s goodwill. The King and
Taylor both love letter-writing, and both are voluminously inclined. Wood
told me that last year Lord Grey got one letter from them (for Taylor writes
and the King approves) of seven sheets; what a mass of silly verbiage
[1]there must have been to wade through.
[1] [This is not just. The published correspondence of King
William IV. and Earl Grey proves that the King’s letters were
written by Sir Herbert Taylor with the greatest ability.]
July 3rd, 1833
Nothing to put down these last two days, unless I go back to my old
practice of recording what I read, and which I rather think I left off because I
read nothing, and had nothing to put down; but in the last two days I have
read a little of Cicero’s ‘Second Philippic,’ Voltaire’s ‘Siècle de Louis
XIV.,’ Coleridge’s ‘Journey to the West Indies;’ bought some books, went
to the opera to hear Bellini’s ‘Norma,’ and thought it heavy, Pasta’s voice[3]not what it was. Everybody talking yesterday of Althorp’s exhibition in the
SALUTES TOHouse of Commons the night before (for particulars of which see
newspapers and Parliamentary debates). It is too ludicrous, too FAMILY.
melancholy, to think of the finances of this country being managed by such
a man: what will not people endure? What a strange medley politics
produce: a wretched clerk in an office who makes some unimportant
blunder, some clerical error, or who exhibits signs of incapacity for work,
which it does not much signify whether it be well or ill done, is got rid of,
and here this man, this good-natured, popular, liked-and-laughed-at good
fellow, more of a grazier than a statesman, blurts out his utter ignorance
before a Reformed Parliament, and people lift up their eyes, shrug their
shoulders, and laugh and chuckle, but still on he goes.
July 4th, 1833
At Court yesterday, and Council for a foolish business. The King has
been (not unnaturally) disgusted at the Duchess of Kent’s progresses with
her daughter through the kingdom, and amongst the rest with her sailings
at the Isle of Wight, and the continual popping in the shape of salutes to
Her Royal Highness. He did not choose that this latter practice should go
on, and he signified his pleasure to Sir James Graham and Lord Hill, for
salutes are matter of general order, both to army and navy. They (and Lord
Grey) thought it better to make no order on the subject, and they opened a
negotiation with the Duchess of Kent, to induce her of her own accord to
waive the salutes, and when she went to the Isle of Wight to send word
that as she was sailing about for her amusement she had rather they did
not salute her whenever she appeared. The negotiation failed, for the
Duchess insisted upon her right to be saluted, and would not give it up.
Kemp told me he had heard that Conroy (who is a ridiculous fellow, a
compound of ‘Great Hussy’ and the Chamberlain of the Princess of
[2]Navarre ) had said, ‘that as Her Royal Highness’s confidential adviser,
he could not recommend her to give way on this point.’ As she declined to
[4]accede to the proposals, nothing remained but to alter the regulations, and
accordingly yesterday, by an Order in Council, the King changed them,
and from this time the Royal Standard is only to be saluted when the King
or the Queen is on board.
[2] See Sir C. Hanbury Williams’ Poems.
Friday, July 12th, 1833
Went to Newmarket on Sunday, came back yesterday, got back at
half-past nine, went to Crockford’s, and heard on the steps of the house
that poor Dover had died that morning. The accounts I had received at
Newmarket confirmed my previous impression that there was no hope;
and, indeed, the sanguine expectations of his family are only to be
accounted for by that disposition in the human mind to look at the most
favourable side, and to cling with pertinacity to hope when reason bids us
despair. There has seldom been destroyed a fairer scene of happiness
and domestic prosperity than by this event. He dies in the flower of his
age, surrounded with all the elements of happiness, and with no drawback
but that of weak health, which until within the last few months was not
sufficiently important to counterbalance the good, and only amounted to
feebleness and delicacy of constitution; and it is the breaking up of ahouse replete with social enjoyment, six or seven children deprived of
their father, and a young wife and his old father overwhelmed with a grief
which the former may, but the latter never can get over, for to him time
sufficient cannot in the course of nature be allotted. Few men could be
more generally regretted than Lord Dover will be by an immense circle of
connections and friends for his really amiable and endearing qualities, by
the world at large for the serious loss which society sustains, and the
disappointment of the expectations of what he one day might have been.
He occupied as large a space in society as his talents (which were by no
means first-rate) permitted; but he was clever, lively, agreeable, good-
tempered, good-natured, hospitable, liberal and rich, a zealous friend, an
eager political partisan, full of activity and vivacity, enjoying life, and
anxious that the circle of his enjoyment should be widely extended.
George Agar Ellis was the only son of Lord Clifden, and obtained early the
[5]reputation of being a prodigy of youthful talent and information. He was
CHARACTER OFquick, lively, and had a very retentive memory, and having entered the
world with this reputation, and his great expectations besides, he speedily
became one of the most conspicuous youths of the day. Having imbibed a
great admiration for Lord Orford (Horace Walpole), he evinced a
disposition to make him his model, and took pains to store his mind with
that sort of light miscellaneous literature in which Lord Orford delighted.
He got into the House of Commons, but never was able to speak, never
attempted to say more than a few words, and from the beginning gave up
all idea of oratorical distinction. After running about the world for a few
years he resolved to marry, and as his heart had nothing to do with this
determination, he pitched upon a daughter of the Duke of Beaufort’s, who
he thought would suit his purpose, and confer upon him a very agreeable
family connection. Being on a tour in the North, he intended to finish it at
Badminton, and there to propose to Lady Georgiana Somerset, with full
assurance that he should not be rejected; but having stopped for a few
days at Lord Carlisle’s at Castle Howard, he there found a girl who spared
him the trouble of going any further, and at the expiration of three or four
days he proposed in form to Lord Morpeth’s second daughter, Georgiana
Howard, who, not less surprised than pleased and proud at the conquest
she found she had so unconsciously made, immediately accepted him.
There never was a less romantic attachment, or more business-like
engagement, nor was there ever a more fortunate choice or a happier
union. Mild, gentle, and amiable, full of devotion to, and admiration of her
husband, her soft and feminine qualities were harmoniously blended with
his vivacity and animal spirits, and produced together results not more
felicitous for themselves than agreeable to all who belonged to their
society. Soon after his marriage, Ellis, who had never been vicious or
profligate, but who was free from anything like severity or austerity, began
to show symptoms of a devout propensity, and not contented with an
ordinary discharge of religious duties, he read tracts and sermons,
[6]frequented churches and preachings, gave up driving on Sundays, and
appeared in considerable danger of falling into the gulf of methodism; but
this turn did not last long, and whatever induced him to take it up, he
apparently became bored with his self-imposed restrictions, and after a
little while he threw off his short-lived sanctity, and resumed his worldly
habits and irreverent language, for he was always a loose talker. Active
and ambitious in his pursuits, and magnificent in his tastes, he devoted
himself to literature, politics, and society; to the two first with greater
success than would be expected of a man whose talents for composition
were below mediocrity, and for public speaking none at all. He became
the patron of various literary institutions and undertakings connected with

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