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(These minutes are subject to correction and/or approval on February 1, 2005) MINUTES OF THE WORK SESSION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE, ARIZONA, HELD TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2005, AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ASCERTAIN QUORUM Vice Chairman Forbeck called the work session to order at 6:15 p.m. Planning and Zoning Commission Members Present: Vice Chairman Gretchen Forbeck, Luke Smith, Stephanie Irwin, Tim Williams, and Georgia Dysterheft mission Members Absent: Chairman Jim Betts (excused), Brian Gilbert (excused), Community Development Staff Present: Paul Esparza, Community Development Director 2. DISCUSSION Mr. Esparza sated that the Public Hearings have been rescheduled for February 1, 2005. Commissioner Irwin questioned whether she needed to declare a conflict of interest when the Yeager Lane Subdivision is discussed and it was agreed that she could participate in the discussions, but should declare a conflict when there is any voting. Commissioner Irwin asked if it would be advantageous to have the Chairman sit in the middle seat rather than at the end of the dais. It was agreed to discuss the seating arrangement with Chairman Betts. Mr. Esparza stated that he would be meeting with the consultant who might be working on the amendments to the subdivision regulations. The award expires in August 2005 and the consultant sees no reason why she could not ...

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(These minutes are subject to correction and/or approval on February 1, 2005)
MINUTES OF THE WORK SESSION OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION OF THE TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE, ARIZONA, HELD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2005, AT 6:15 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
1.
CALL TO ORDER AND ASCERTAIN QUORUM
Vice Chairman Forbeck called the work session to order at 6:15 p.m.
Planning and Zoning Commission Members Present: Vice Chairman Gretchen Forbeck, Luke
Smith, Stephanie Irwin, Tim Williams, and Georgia Dysterheft
Planning and Zoning Commission Members Absent: Chairman Jim Betts (excused), Brian
Gilbert (excused),
Community Development Staff Present: Paul Esparza, Community Development Director
2.
DISCUSSION
Mr. Esparza sated that the Public Hearings have been rescheduled for February 1, 2005.
Commissioner Irwin questioned whether she needed to declare a conflict of interest when the
Yeager Lane Subdivision is discussed and it was agreed that she could participate in the
discussions, but should declare a conflict when there is any voting.
Commissioner Irwin asked if it would be advantageous to have the Chairman sit in the middle
seat rather than at the end of the dais. It was agreed to discuss the seating arrangement with
Chairman Betts.
Mr. Esparza stated that he would be meeting with the consultant who might be working on the
amendments to the subdivision regulations. The award expires in August 2005 and the
consultant sees no reason why she could not complete the amendments by that time.
Mr. Esparza will be attending a conference on Friday, along with Connie Boggs, that deals with
how small communities can attract new business.
The Business Advisory Group meets 1/19/05 and Mr. Esparza will update the group concerning
the sign codes, particularly regarding temporary signs.
3.
ADJOURNMENT
The Work Session was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
/s/ Vice Chairman Gretchen Forbeck
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING
COMMISSION OF THE TOWN OF PINETOP-LAKESIDE, ARIZONA, HELD
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2005, AT 6:30 P.M. IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS.
1.
CALL TO ORDER TO ASCERTAIN QUORUM
Vice Chairman Forbeck called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m.
Planning and Zoning Commission Members Present: Vice Chairman Gretchen Forbeck, Luke
Smith, Stephanie Irwin, Tim Williams, and Georgia Dysterheft
Planning and Zoning Commission Members Absent: Vice Chairman Jim Betts (excused), Brian
Gilbert (excused)
Community Development Staff Present: Paul Esparza, Community Development Director
2.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
3.
CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF THE WORK
SESSION AND MEETING HELD DECEMBER 21, 2004.
Commissioner Irwin moved to accept the minutes of the December 21, 2004 work session and
meeting. Commissioner Smith seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
4.
PUBLIC PARTICIPATION. ACTION TAKEN AS A RESULT OF PUBLIC
COMMENT IS LIMITED TO DIRECTING STAFF TO STUDY THE MATTER
AND RESCHEDULE FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION AT A LATER DATE.
COMMISSION MAY PROVIDE LIMITED RESPONSE TO ITEMS THAT ARE
NOT ON THE AGENDA. INDIVIDUALS ARE LIMITED TO THREE (3)
MINUTES FOR PRESENTATION.
There was no Public Participation.
5.
DISCUSSION/CONSIDERATION
RE: PUD 05-014
Discussion on a request for a rezone to (PUD), Planned Unit Development of a 15-
acre parcel located south of the Lakeside Summer Homes. The current zoning is
R1-4. APN 212-29-181. The applicant is Westco Development Corp.
Mr. Esparza presented the staff report detailing the proposal and reiterated that no action would
be taken on the plan at this time. No public hearings have been scheduled at this time. Mr.
Esparza stated that the development would be at the upper end of medium density.
Commissioner Irwin asked what type of houses are planned for such small lots and John
Murphy, the Engineer, explained that they would be site-built homes specifically designed for
the lots. They would be about 1,000 to 1,500 square feet.
Vice Chairman Forbeck stated that a PUD must have meaningful open space and asked whether
people will have access to the open space areas. Mr. Murphy stated that access would be created
to the open spaces.
Mr. Murphy was uncertain whether there would be fences required.
The drainage of the area was discussed. Mr. Murphy stated that the drainage study has not been
done yet.
Mr. John Mahon, of Yeager Lane, stated that he is a certified engineering technician. He stated
that the pavement on Yeager is so distressed that any construction traffic will destroy it. Also, a
big issue is the drainage, which will drain from the subdivision onto Yeager, and if there is a lot
of water, lots 177, 178, and 179 will be inundated.
Mr. Mahon stated that he feels the subdivision is too dense for the area. Mr. Mahon also stated
that some lots on Summer Haven have had a view of the meadow forever would now have a
view of a subdivision and it would be a view of the backs of the homes. He further stated that
the people in their backyard will have a view of him naked in Summer Haven.
Vice Chairman Forbeck stated that whether or not the meadow gets rezoned, anyone can come in
and put up to 60 homes there. Mr. Mahon wanted to know why just two or two and a half lots
per acre be developed, rather than four per acre. Vice Chairman Forbeck stated that the zoning
allows up to four per acre and it is a property rights issue. Mr. Mahon stated that allowing a
cookie-cutter development in the middle of older homes would affect the resale price of the older
homes. Allowing construction traffic onto Yeager will destroy it and the residents along Yeager
will be the ones who have to pay to repave.
Ms. Barbara Teague of Lakeside questioned whether the meadow area had always been zoned R
1-4 and was informed that it had. She also asked where the area got its water and was told it was
from Arizona Water.
Mr. Steve Gates, Lot 172 of Wonderland Acres, asked if there was a minimum lot width and was
told that there was a minimum of 100’, but in a PUD they can “mass” their lots as long has they
provide for 30% open space. Mr. Gates also was concerned with the drainage and stated that per
a study done by Frontier Engineering, the drainage channel would need to be 10 to 18 feet wide
and handle at least three feet of water.
Mr. Gates also expressed his concerns regarding the amount of traffic that will be generated in
the area and whether the roads can handle it. Discussion was held concerning Yeager Lane and
whether or not it could handle so much additional traffic and if it would need to be widened.
Mr. Murphy asked what the main concerns were and what they could do to assuage them. The
main concerns were the drainage, traffic on Yeager, and the density of houses that backs up to
those on Navajo Lane. Commissioner Irwin stated that she felt that having such little lots right
up against the larger lots is a concern. They would like to see something that is more in keeping
with the character of the neighborhood. The possibility of lessening the density was discussed.
6.
DISCUSSION/CONSIDERATION
RE: SPR 05-206
Discussion on a proposed site plan for a new professional office-commercial center
to be located at 4700 W. White Mountain Boulevard. The current zoning is C-1.
APN 212-29-022B. The applicant is Timothy Shaffery.
Mr. Esparza presented the staff report and stated that a Design Review has been held.
Mr. Shaffery stated that the one ingress/egress would be sufficient. He also stated that they
would not be touching the wash area. Site B will be developed first, with the first building being
his office.
7.
UPDATE on the proposed Mountainside Development Regulations and PUD 05-013
scheduled for action on January 4, 2005.
Mr. Esparza stated there would be a public hearing on February 1, 2005 on both the
Mountainside Development Regulations and PUD 05-013. Some comments concerned the cost
of implementing the Mountainside Development Regulations and the width of the driveways.
Some of the comments received regarding the PUD concerns neighbors wanting less
development on that acre rather than the six houses.
8.
STAFF REPORT
Mr. Esparza stated that he gave the Rotary Club Breakfast Meeting an update on all the projects
around town.
9.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Williams moved to adjourn at 7:33 p.m. Commissioner Dysterheft seconded the
motion and it carried unanimously.
/s/ Vice Chairman Jim Gretchen Forbeck
CERTIFICATION:
I hereby certify that the foregoing minutes are a true and correct copy of the minutes of the
Regular Meeting of the Planning & Zoning Commission of the Town of Pinetop-Lakeside,
Arizona, held on the 18
th
day of January 2005. I further certify that the meeting was duly called
and held and that a quorum was present.
DATED the 20
th
day of January 2005.
/s/ Peggy Opp, Recording Secretary
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